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today's guest isaac wisehop

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i'm saying that when you understand how

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and this goes back we could finish our

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thought on who the illuminati was

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there was conspiracy theories back in

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the late 1700s that the illuminati was

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welcome to skeptico where we explore

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controversial science and spirituality

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with leading researchers thinkers

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sacaris today

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we welcome isaac wisehop to skeptico

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isaac is the author of several

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this you can see me

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psy which he doesn't even know what the

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chose many years ago

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uh and it stuck and unfortunately that's

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that's now something i got to explain

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everywhere i go not terrible at all

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explain why top

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so what why sobs the uh well and i i

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chose it because

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my my blog started out it's called

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illuminatiwatcher.com

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and i got invited to do a radio show

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back in like 2011 and i was kind of like

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you know i was just a dude going

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i was taking a break before i started

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grad school and did a blog

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and i uh i thought what the heck am i

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going to call

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use my real name because this is like at

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the time it was like this is really

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bonkers territory you know

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and i just chose the i and the w out of

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there and went with isaac wisehop

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because i thought it was clever uh but

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you know people people

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roast me on that and incessantly i mean

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i must get

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a question every day on social media

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about from some new you know

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person says wait a minute dude you're

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related to adam weishaupt you know

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so yeah i'm a shield because again tell

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them who adam

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weisaw this jesuit priest who um

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he or a jesuit uh college graduate he um

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he in bavaria back in like germany right

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in 1776 he started the secret society

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um and they had and much like you see

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with the goals of the great reset

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they have a lot of interesting ideas

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that seem noble

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uh and it's always semantics right like

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the

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to fight injustice to

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um facilitate uh

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knowledge through science and not just

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rely on the church

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to give you the full version of reality

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because that's kind of how it was back

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then

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and he employed all the sort of things

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that you would expect

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from a secret society gave people you

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know secret names secret handshakes

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and even uh infiltrated some masonic

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lodges

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and what was curious a curious

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connection into my realm of studying pop

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culture in the occult

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he actually would have his higher up

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initiates

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separate and severe ties from their

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friends and family

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which is sort of an occult ritualistic

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tendency you see with

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with with certain events like for

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example the mask

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right we talk about the masks for about

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a whole year now

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and what they do in freemasonic rituals

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they put a hood wink

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with a mask over your eyes and the idea

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is you suppress the ego you suppress

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the initiate sense of self and

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they can sort of create a new

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environment which therefore they can

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sort of be reborn into these new ideas

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so adam weishaupt would have his

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initiates

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uh separate from friends and family

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completely which

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has been a recurring theme in like every

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disney movie right like the parents

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always have to die

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uh you know i went through this in my i

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wrote a whole book on star wars

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franchise and like the story is loaded

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with

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parental trauma of like you know you

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know like luke's got to kill his own

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father i mean

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and and darth vader as a young man

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his mother was killed in front of him

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you know it's like it goes on and on and

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it turns out this is connected into like

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secret society stuff

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but um well let's pause there for just

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let's pause there for just a sec

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so we don't lose anybody so secret

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society

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um i want to really break that down

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because as our

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past president the good old george bush

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said i can't tell you anything about it

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it's secret and a big old smile on his

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face

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like that wink in a non thing is always

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in play but there's a reality to it too

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so there's a reality to skull and bones

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what other whatever reality you think it

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is that's george bush's

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secret society where they actually have

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video of them

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performing very dark rituals that you

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know most of us

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you could just say oh that's strange

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creepy stuff that people do

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so there's always this kind of wink and

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nod

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kind of acknowledgement of it but at the

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same time

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make light of it that's okay you can

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take either camp you want

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what i really wanted to nail down for

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people who are are kind of doubtful is

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okay there's a real history

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1776. there's a real meaning behind it

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there's real people who did it and i

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would go back

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1666 sabatia zev

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right sabatia zev 1666 this is real

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history

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two one two million followers

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his main thing was we got a break free

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of judaism uh which is a cult

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at the time it's like this high

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rule-based kind of

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wacky religion you can only do this and

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he's like rebel against that and you

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know how we should rebel against it

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do the opposite because look in our book

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you know this is our book

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the bible which is all our book

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he's going to come when everybody's good

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or everybody's bad and we've already

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tried the good thing that ain't working

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so let's try the bad thing redemption

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through sin let's do the most sinful

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things

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to our children to other children

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to uh you know let's have orgies let's

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do stuff on the sabbath let's make it

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secret let's lie

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let's deceive let's infiltrate do

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all the things that are the most evil

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that we can do because that's going to

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bring about the second coming

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i think there's a direct lineage between

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uh

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the sabatians and then the francis

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who follow and you can follow that

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history and it goes right into

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islam but it's the same thing it's the

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exact same thing

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it's the do with thou wilt stuff and

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it's the

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kind of uh i can do anything to promote

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my end goals and i will deceive you with

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saying it's one thing or saying it's

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another and i will infiltrate

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and we'll be secret and we'll be all

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this stuff so

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here's the connection i'm trying to make

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anyone who wants to investigate this

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these parts are undeniable the

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sabbateen frankish to

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illuminati stuff there is a clear line

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you just can't deny it so you can deny

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all the rest of this stuff but

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there's a certain part of this that

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you're talking about that's just history

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and the fact that people are able to

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dismiss it so

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easily is part of the [\h__\h]

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thing what do you think about that am i

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stretching that too far

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no man you're 100 dead on because i've

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got i've got a stack of like a few books

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that go through

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like the history of the occult and sort

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of like major thought leaders of the

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past and to me

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to sort of simplify it because like i'm

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no scholar like i'm just trying to like

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sort of learn about these ideas learn

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about the history of the whole thing

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and history is you know sometimes it's a

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little muddled sometimes it's sort of

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rewritten

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by the powers that be of course but to

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me there's a clear line

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of the modern day occultist modern day

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thought leaders that

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would i would argue be um

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the ones in this illuminati that we call

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them there's a clear line from that

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going all the way back to the secret

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societies

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of uh you know ancient egypt and greece

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and rome

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and their practices they were doing sort

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of the same

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and the reason i think there's a clear

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lineage is because they're doing sort of

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the same thing you go back to

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pythagoras you know he started one of

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the first secret societies

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and he went around synthesizing all

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these secret teachings in egypt and uh

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you know in greece and all their and

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mesopotamia

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which you know fits into a much

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larger argument i have about the capitol

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building as a symbolic event but anyway

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i know it's a big rabbit hole sort of

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topic but

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you go back to the ancient secret

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societies and these occultists

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they've been practicing different

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methods of making contact with a higher

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power a higher dimension

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kind of like you know like like you seem

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to believe in you know some element of

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spirituality and and

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i agree that to me there seems to be

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this weird sort of

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atheistic push to think that oh you know

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we just came from

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space dust and we're going to turn into

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worm food and that's it it's over

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there's nothing else to it and i

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i just don't believe that um for many

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reasons

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but the the mystery schools they all

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taught their initiates how to make

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contact

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with this other dimension this higher

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power the the divine as they would call

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it

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god uh through apollonian or dionysian

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rituals of

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uh you know sensory deprivation dance

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drugs you know drinking alcohol

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rhythmic dancing playing the drums like

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you name it there's a lot

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it's either you're depriving the senses

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or you're overloading the senses

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and and kind of what you alluded to um

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there's this and that's one one theory

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about this whole thing

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why are they doing all of this uh is to

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bring about the apocalypse the great

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revealing and the end times

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which you know you could argue that

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if you look at um for instance robert

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anton wilson who wrote the illuminatus

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trilogy

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which i didn't read the whole thing it's

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very confusing for me like

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i'm not a good fiction reader but i read

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parts of it and

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he mentions that they tried you know

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we've tried capitalism we've tried

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communism we've tried fascism

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the only thing left for you know the

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illuminati the world

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octopus global controllers the only

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thing left for us to try

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is anarchism but try

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for what exactly and that's that's the

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big question

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and like clearly i don't know the answer

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and it would take a whole lot of people

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00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:29,919
on the inside to reveal that truth but

568
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:31,440
to me i think there's

569
00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:33,039
always been a spiritual component to

570
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:35,840
this and i think that continues to be

571
00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:36,880
found

572
00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:40,240
in like you alluded to this this

573
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:43,520
theatrical sort of last 12 months we've

574
00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:44,400
had and

575
00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:47,360
i'm not saying like oh the virus is fake

576
00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:48,720
and this is all just

577
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:50,559
you know hollywood special effects like

578
00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:52,799
i'm not saying that i'm saying that

579
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:54,640
when you understand how these people

580
00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:56,320
think they believe

581
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,280
that there's a sort of ceremonial ritual

582
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:01,360
magic they can conduct

583
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:04,080
where they can literally transform the

584
00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:04,640
world

585
00:22:09,669 --> 00:22:06,960
and this goes back we could finish our

586
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:09,679
thought on who the illuminati was

587
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:12,159
there was conspiracy theories back in

588
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:14,960
the late 1700s that the illuminati was

589
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:17,760
behind the french revolution

590
00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:21,120
and the way the the way the history

591
00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:21,919
books teach it

592
00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:24,960
is that if the french revolution blew

593
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:25,840
everyone's mind

594
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:27,360
because before that it was just there

595
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:30,559
was a uh aristocratic privileged elite

596
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:32,960
bloodlines and and royalty and nobility

597
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:34,240
and all that stuff

598
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:36,799
and all of a sudden out of nowhere they

599
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:38,640
get overthrown violently

600
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:41,600
and now there's this egalitarian society

601
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:42,640
and

602
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:48,320
people have the freedom to do what they

603
00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:50,159
want they have the freedom to accumulate

604
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:52,720
wealth for themselves and this was also

605
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:56,080
very radical and it co it corresponded

606
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:58,400
with the goals of the illuminati

607
00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:01,120
uh of the thinkers of the enlightenment

608
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:03,039
the freemasons

609
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:04,960
and a lot of these sort of like groups

610
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:07,520
you hear about like the jack of beans

611
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:09,679
but they all sort of have been saying

612
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:10,559
this kind of stuff

613
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:12,400
and when you look at the great reset

614
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:13,679
that's essentially

615
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:16,000
what klaus schwab is saying from the

616
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,200
world economic forum

617
00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:19,440
over there in davos switzerland if

618
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:21,200
people are still with us

619
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:24,960
the one question that might pop up is

620
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:29,280
why would we associate the illuminati

621
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:29,840
with

622
00:23:33,149 --> 00:23:31,679
all these good things that you're

623
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:33,159
talking about

624
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:36,159
egalitarian society

625
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:39,600
and rights given to the people

626
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:42,240
and overthrowing what is clearly a

627
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:43,039
corrupt

628
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:46,320
system of lineage you know power

629
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:48,720
and transfer of power just by your

630
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:49,600
bloodline

631
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,559
or concentrated in some completely

632
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:54,240
corrupt church where there's

633
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:57,279
12 year old cardinal 12 year old uh

634
00:24:04,070 --> 00:24:00,559
bishops that are you know given all this

635
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,080
land and all this power so how do we how

636
00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:05,760
do we sort that out

637
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,240
the like because in a lot of ways i

638
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:10,000
think that's easier for people to

639
00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:13,120
understand and accept that there was a

640
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:14,799
need for

641
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:17,520
an illuminati force there was a good

642
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:18,000
part

643
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:21,039
of an illuminati ethos

644
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:24,240
um even if it comes along with some

645
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,080
other stuff that we can talk about can

646
00:24:30,830 --> 00:24:27,840
you help people square that

647
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,840
in their mind and possibly bridge that

648
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,400
reality

649
00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:34,559
first off i'm going to fail to square

650
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:35,679
their mind with it because that's

651
00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:37,039
something i've been trying to do for

652
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:38,720
years

653
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,799
because i wonder the same exact things i

654
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:42,720
look at all this stuff

655
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:46,000
and i say and and ultimately

656
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,080
i'll give you the sort of like i'll give

657
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:49,919
you the uh the final takeaway first and

658
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:51,520
then explain myself

659
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:53,520
ultimately i think it's a ruse i think

660
00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:55,120
that

661
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:58,720
all these things are being um

662
00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:00,480
are being sort of dangled in front of us

663
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:02,080
and it's not going to be the case i

664
00:25:07,269 --> 00:25:02,720
think it's

665
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:07,279
i i fear that if we go into this idea of

666
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:09,120
what they call the great reset the new

667
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:10,559
normal this

668
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,320
this global government that conspiracy

669
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,080
theorists have been clamoring about for

670
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:16,080
years and years and years saying oh my

671
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,840
god they're consolidating power

672
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,760
and you know it's going to be it's going

673
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:21,679
to be bad news for everybody if american

674
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,559
democracy

675
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:24,799
fails and capitalism fails and we go

676
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:26,000
into this communist

677
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:29,360
sort of globalist government and and you

678
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:30,880
know going back to ronald reagan ronald

679
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:31,440
reagan

680
00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:33,279
said like well one way we could get

681
00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:35,279
there because he was he was a globalist

682
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:36,799
uh one way we could get there is with

683
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:38,880
the alien presence we could

684
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:41,360
unite as a globe uh because he was

685
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,480
planting that seed

686
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:45,600
but i do think that they would like that

687
00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:47,600
and they're going to say look we need a

688
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:49,120
global government

689
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:52,240
because we need to sort of divvy out uh

690
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:53,360
you know the

691
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:54,640
this is what they say they're like we

692
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:56,400
got to make sure you don't eat too much

693
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:57,840
meat we got to make sure

694
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,760
you're not contributing too much to

695
00:26:01,669 --> 00:26:01,200
pollution because you know the planet's

696
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:01,679
in bad

697
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:05,120
shape um and hold up there now tell us

698
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:05,679
who

699
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:09,440
specific stuff

700
00:26:13,750 --> 00:26:11,440
i i can't pin you down i keep trying to

701
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:13,760
bring it back to the 1770s or

702
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,600
that french revolution you don't want to

703
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:17,200
go there you're chomping at the bit to

704
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:18,480
go to this great reset

705
00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:22,159
so let's go no no let's go there

706
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:23,919
because this has been an important part

707
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:25,760
of your work recently

708
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:28,799
but you can point people to

709
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,279
the documents you can point people to

710
00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:33,120
the modern day groups

711
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,799
what they've said and again if we laid

712
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:38,640
enough of a kind of

713
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:41,440
hint on the table it sounds very

714
00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:42,400
enticing

715
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:43,840
of course you have to control your

716
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:46,559
carbon footprint my god the planet is at

717
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:49,039
stake the whole environment of course

718
00:26:52,149 --> 00:26:50,960
you're going to give up your rights a

719
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,159
little bit to do that

720
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:54,720
of course we have a population control

721
00:26:57,190 --> 00:26:55,760
of course

722
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:57,200
you're not going to have any money

723
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,799
because we've had to

724
00:27:02,149 --> 00:27:00,240
you know shut down the whole economy

725
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:02,159
well we'll give you money here just chip

726
00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:03,679
up and we'll give you money

727
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:07,039
who is this santa claus

728
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:10,400
guy and who is he really i mean who

729
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:14,000
really is he and why is he so prominent

730
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:17,039
in in this story right now why is bill

731
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:18,640
gates

732
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:20,720
allowed to talk on all these health

733
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:22,399
matters what's his

734
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:25,679
credential so who who is who are some of

735
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:27,039
the players here

736
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:30,960
that without us even realizing it are

737
00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:34,480
kind of ushering in this change

738
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:36,960
ultimately it's the if you look at the

739
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,640
you know klaus schwab he runs the world

740
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:40,240
economic forum

741
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:43,200
and they're like a major thought leaders

742
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:44,960
in the globalist movement

743
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:48,399
and they they the world economic forum

744
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:49,679
is limited to

745
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:53,120
the top 1 000 richest corporations

746
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:55,600
and that's why i say it's a ruse because

747
00:27:59,350 --> 00:27:56,320
i'm always

748
00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:59,360
extremely critical of uh you know the

749
00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:00,799
corporations you know

750
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,919
and that they want to say like this is

751
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:05,279
literally what their argument is when

752
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,640
you read his books and you read through

753
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:08,159
all the documents and stuff

754
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:11,279
their argument is look people are greedy

755
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,480
and we need to make sure that we

756
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:16,880
divvy out just enough for you to live so

757
00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:19,200
that you don't ruin it for everyone else

758
00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:20,799
and oh by the way the people that are

759
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:22,799
going to do this are the greediest

760
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:25,200
corporations that made it to the top

761
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:28,559
of the uh of the economic system through

762
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:30,960
you know all the all the nasty stuff

763
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:32,720
that corporations do you know cutthroat

764
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:34,000
stuff they do with

765
00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:37,520
you know sweatshops and slave labor and

766
00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:39,440
all that kind of stuff that's pretty

767
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:41,760
seedy so they want to say like

768
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:44,000
look you guys are greedy we're gonna let

769
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:45,600
the greediest people on earth

770
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:47,760
re-divvy out the goods so that you won't

771
00:28:50,789 --> 00:28:49,039
be so greedy like that's

772
00:28:52,070 --> 00:28:50,799
that's what they say and that's why i'm

773
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:52,080
like man f that

774
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:53,520
because i'm with you on the sense that

775
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:58,149
the like the illuminati are they are

776
00:29:02,549 --> 00:28:59,760
they bad guys or good guys

777
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:02,559
well like if this is the illuminati like

778
00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:04,720
i would say they're bad guys they have

779
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:07,360
ideas that seem seem fair enough they

780
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,480
seem very common

781
00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:10,559
not common sense that's the wrong term

782
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,240
they seem uh

783
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,960
you know appreciable like well maybe i

784
00:29:17,110 --> 00:29:16,320
don't think it's such a bad idea to

785
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,120
worry about the

786
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,440
the earth you know worry about how much

787
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,440
uh how much

788
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:23,760
meat we consume like because i i have

789
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:25,679
concerns about those things too i'm by

790
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:26,320
no means

791
00:29:29,350 --> 00:29:28,720
a vegan but like i try to be cognizant

792
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:29,360
and not just

793
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:32,399
mindlessly eat meat i appreciate uh you

794
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:33,840
know the animal that gave its life for

795
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:35,679
me like that kind of stuff

796
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,360
but to see the people that are gonna

797
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,120
orchestrate it that's where i

798
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:41,840
think okay this isn't good this is bad

799
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,320
this is

800
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:44,240
everything that these conspiracy

801
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,520
theorists have been

802
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,840
warning us about for dozens of years you

803
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:49,279
know what i mean

804
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:51,840
so i think that um i think yeah there's

805
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:53,600
a lot of concerns to be had

806
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:56,480
with this great reset plan which by the

807
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:57,520
way on the surface

808
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:00,480
they'll flat out tell you the big

809
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:03,679
problem is america they say america

810
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,840
needs to be removed as the global

811
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:08,240
superpower and

812
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,360
america needs to be um

813
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,760
uh what do they say something about how

814
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:15,360
western values

815
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:17,360
need to be brought to their knees

816
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,200
something to that effect

817
00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:21,520
and i mean what do you what do what does

818
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:22,559
the world think we've been doing the

819
00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:23,919
last 12 months they've been

820
00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:26,080
testing every single thing we've got in

821
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:27,360
capitalism

822
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:29,760
throwing everything at it to try to shut

823
00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:31,120
it down and that's always been my

824
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:32,159
argument

825
00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:35,039
uh because i don't believe in in qa9 and

826
00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:36,399
all that stuff

827
00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:39,039
but i think that when we see stuff like

828
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,159
what happened at the capitol building

829
00:30:46,630 --> 00:30:44,480
i think that's that's helping out people

830
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:46,640
like klaus schwab in this world economic

831
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:48,080
forum great reset

832
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:49,919
because what it does is that sends a

833
00:30:54,950 --> 00:30:51,919
signal out to the whole world

834
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:54,960
globally like oh american democracy this

835
00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:56,240
is the thing we're supposed to model

836
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:58,000
ourselves after the one that

837
00:31:01,830 --> 00:31:00,640
regular you know a bunch of people just

838
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:01,840
walked in and could have done whatever

839
00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:03,200
they wanted i mean thank goodness they

840
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:03,760
didn't

841
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:05,760
go violent with it i mean a couple

842
00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:07,120
people died but like

843
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:08,320
you know that could have been a lot

844
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,799
worse and i think

845
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:12,720
that sent a lot of weird signals and

846
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:14,559
there's gonna be a lot of weird rippling

847
00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:15,120
effects

848
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:17,679
and it all supports this great reset

849
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:18,880
because

850
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:21,120
call schwab has been saying it america's

851
00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:21,919
the problem

852
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:23,519
we need to bring it down because this is

853
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,120
the last sort of bastion

854
00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:28,240
of capitalism and democracy why you just

855
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:29,679
give it up and

856
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:32,559
join in this global super uh you know

857
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:34,240
dystopia that they want

858
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:37,519
okay you went full bore there on me full

859
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:40,720
for screw the teaspoon throw it out the

860
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:41,679
window

861
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,279
get the fire hose get the fire hose out

862
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:47,200
i told you i'm feeling weird today alex

863
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:49,760
so i've been i've had anxiety for like

864
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:51,519
two days straight and like i don't even

865
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:54,640
know how to make sense of things because

866
00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:56,559
i don't know man i i'm very concerned

867
00:32:03,110 --> 00:31:59,440
about the the immediate future

868
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:03,120
well and you know let me try and

869
00:32:10,149 --> 00:32:06,720
uh again stitch that back to

870
00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,159
skeptico as i generally do it so i

871
00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:12,480
alluded to the fact that i just did an

872
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:14,799
interview not too long ago with this guy

873
00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:16,799
stephen browdy dr stephen browdy and you

874
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,000
don't know him but he's kind of

875
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:20,720
well-known in the parapsychology

876
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:22,240
community well known the frontier

877
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:24,240
science community

878
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:26,720
editor of a really great journal journal

879
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:28,720
scientific exploration

880
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:32,159
so you know university professor

881
00:32:37,710 --> 00:32:34,480
all the the papers that are

882
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:37,720
peer-reviewed in that journal are from

883
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:39,840
university-affiliated people who are

884
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:40,640
willing to

885
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:44,080
explore kind of out there science like

886
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:45,919
does telepathy really happen

887
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:48,240
does remote viewing is that real what

888
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:50,480
about these ufo things and stuff like

889
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:51,519
that

890
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:54,399
but here's the disappointing part about

891
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:54,799
uh

892
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,080
browdy and i can

893
00:33:01,830 --> 00:33:00,240
sometimes i don't know how but i wind up

894
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:01,840
in some pretty uncomfortable

895
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:04,080
interviews and it got a little bit

896
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,760
uncomfortable with steven though

897
00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:07,919
wouldn't you know

898
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:09,840
and and part of the reason for that is

899
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:11,519
that

900
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:14,399
people are so closed down to this idea

901
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:16,399
of conspiracy

902
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:18,559
that they don't even see it when it

903
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,559
knocks at their own door

904
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:22,480
so here's where it knocks at our own

905
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:26,080
door in skeptico

906
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:30,399
if you're interested in parapsychology

907
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:34,159
uh you know telepathy esp

908
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:36,159
you know for the old term one of the

909
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:37,440
things you're going to be drawn to

910
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,320
really quickly

911
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,240
is the remote viewing project that was

912
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:42,640
done by the united states government

913
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:45,360
at project stargate and they've released

914
00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:46,080
that now

915
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,279
and you're from you're nodding your head

916
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:49,120
you're familiar enough with that a

917
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:49,919
little bit yes

918
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:52,080
uh yeah i talked about that in my new uh

919
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:53,760
my my new alien book uh

920
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,600
yes because i because there's a mental

921
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,519
component to all this right is what i

922
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:58,880
would argue but yeah go ahead sorry

923
00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:00,000
exactly what

924
00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:01,919
that bonnie the guy had to always go

925
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:03,919
down there did you ever

926
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,279
run across uh ufo researcher grant

927
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:09,440
cameron

928
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:12,240
yes uh boy then it escapes me where that

929
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,679
came from but yeah for sure

930
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:16,159
i know that name well people will have

931
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:17,520
to hear this for the 5

932
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:20,399
000th time on skeptico but what grant is

933
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:21,520
kind of one of the things he's well

934
00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:22,079
known for

935
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:25,119
is the uncovering the

936
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,480
he didn't actually the one to do it but

937
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:28,480
kind of popularizing this

938
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:30,960
release of this accidentally

939
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:32,960
declassified document that turns out to

940
00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:34,320
be really key

941
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:37,359
it's the wilbert smith memo in canada

942
00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:38,879
where he goes down to the united states

943
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:41,599
and he goes he brings all his ufo stuff

944
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:43,919
secretly down to the united states and

945
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:45,280
says here i'll tell you what i know you

946
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:46,320
tell me you know

947
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:48,079
he comes back and he writes a memo to

948
00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:49,919
his boss and he says wow this stuff

949
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:52,960
is top top priority

950
00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:54,960
higher more high secret than the

951
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:56,960
hydrogen bomb

952
00:35:00,230 --> 00:34:58,880
here all the names the people i i met

953
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,240
with uh

954
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,720
vandervar bush uh i forget all the other

955
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:04,640
names but the people who are well placed

956
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:05,040
and

957
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:06,560
in the right position to kind of know

958
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:08,480
about this stuff but then what you just

959
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:09,280
alluded to

960
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:11,040
in the last sentence of this memo he

961
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,720
says and

962
00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:15,359
they believe that there is a mental

963
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:16,160
component

964
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:18,800
to this that is key to the whole thing

965
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:20,000
so

966
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:26,310
suggests and i agree with them is part

967
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:26,880
of the

968
00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,800
agenda for the mk ultra

969
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:32,960
the reboot of the nazi program which it

970
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:34,720
just is a good feeling you know freak

971
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:35,119
out

972
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:37,839
reboot well that's just what it is they

973
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:38,800
didn't mean

974
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:41,920
my mk you know is uh and

975
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:44,240
uh and the head of that of course is

976
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:45,119
this jewish

977
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:47,920
psychologist interestingly enough the

978
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:49,119
the us's

979
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:53,200
um mengele uh sydney gottlieb

980
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:55,839
right so he is the head of that and he

981
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:58,079
actually runs the stargate program a lot

982
00:36:02,069 --> 00:36:00,400
of people don't know that but

983
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:02,079
you know the stargate guys who are doing

984
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:04,160
the remote viewing how put off russell

985
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,880
targ

986
00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,640
they have to talk about when sydney

987
00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:08,800
comes to town and they have to placate

988
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:09,520
him

989
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:12,160
and all the rest but the point of that

990
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,040
whole thing

991
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:14,800
back to the stephen browdy back to the

992
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:16,480
skeptical world

993
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:19,920
is i'm going uh yeah but stephen

994
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,320
i mean they knew with stargate

995
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:27,119
that it's not consciousness is an

996
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:29,040
illusion biological robots and

997
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,640
meaningless universe

998
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:32,800
they [\h__\h] assume that from the

999
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:34,960
beginning you talk about this extended

1000
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:37,440
realm spirituality well they assumed

1001
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:38,560
that

1002
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,079
they had books uh you know they had

1003
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:42,000
raymond moody's book a near-death

1004
00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:42,880
experience

1005
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,880
they were talking to people who claimed

1006
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:46,000
to be

1007
00:36:51,670 --> 00:36:49,359
didn't give a [\h__\h]

1008
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:51,680
they were like hey man there were

1009
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:52,800
soldiers you know

1010
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:55,440
they were soldiers we got to find out

1011
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:56,240
what the [\h__\h]

1012
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:58,720
is in the extended realm we have to find

1013
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:00,000
out if it's a threat

1014
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:02,480
which is always a cover story for saying

1015
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:04,079
we have to figure out how to weaponize

1016
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:05,920
it so we can kick somebody's ass with it

1017
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:06,320
right

1018
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:08,079
because that's what the military does

1019
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:09,359
and that's what they always do

1020
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:11,599
well that was the whole thing behind

1021
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:12,720
stargate so

1022
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:14,640
back to for people the skeptical

1023
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,760
transition i

1024
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:17,520
[\h__\h] if you're brody if you don't

1025
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:19,760
know that [\h__\h] you're not doing your job

1026
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:20,320
bro

1027
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:22,480
you are not doing your job so don't sit

1028
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:23,599
there and tell me

1029
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:25,440
about you know super psy and all the

1030
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:27,520
rest of this [\h__\h] if you can't deal with

1031
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:28,800
that conspiracy

1032
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:32,079
that known conspiracy revealed by 60 000

1033
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:34,079
documents that are just

1034
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:37,119
released now and are in the public if

1035
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:37,680
you can't

1036
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:41,359
not in the game

1037
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:45,520
and that's where that's my point even

1038
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:48,960
fringe science even frontier science

1039
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:51,200
isn't in the game because they can't

1040
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:52,640
embrace

1041
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,280
conspiracy they can't sit down and have

1042
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:57,040
this illuminati talk

1043
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,200
that we're just having right now and

1044
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:00,960
process it and say

1045
00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:03,839
is the sabbateen frankish thing still in

1046
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:06,640
play and does it trace back to

1047
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:09,920
the mystery schools and all the you're

1048
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:10,320
you're

1049
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,119
process that one way or another

1050
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,200
yeah most definitely there's there's a

1051
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:21,599
weird in fact i interviewed dr diana

1052
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:23,440
pasalka she wrote the book american

1053
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:24,240
cosmic

1054
00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:27,680
um she she basically was

1055
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:30,560
relaying her experience working with the

1056
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,280
invisible college which is

1057
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:35,760
the the long-standing rumor that there's

1058
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:36,400
been

1059
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:38,880
a group not really a secret society per

1060
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:39,520
se but

1061
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,800
a group of people covertly working on

1062
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:44,640
the ufo phenomenon since

1063
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:48,079
i don't know the 40s or whatever and

1064
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:49,760
she hung out with these people and the

1065
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:51,119
one guy who

1066
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:54,400
was like she calls him tyler right

1067
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,160
and tyler is not only he's convinced

1068
00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:00,000
he doesn't even call it a belief in

1069
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:01,599
aliens he says look i've

1070
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,839
i know there's aliens i know there's

1071
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:04,880
ufos i

1072
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:07,680
i work with pieces of these ufos so it's

1073
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:08,720
not a belief for me

1074
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:11,200
it's knowledge for me and when i

1075
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:12,880
interviewed her

1076
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:14,960
i don't recall how it came up but this

1077
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:16,640
the takeaway was

1078
00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:19,599
he didn't know tyler this guy who like

1079
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:20,720
is apparently uh

1080
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,800
into the the alien religion or whatever

1081
00:39:27,349 --> 00:39:24,400
that's going to be coming out

1082
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:27,359
he didn't know who john d was john d of

1083
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:28,240
course

1084
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:31,040
one of the one of the you know occultist

1085
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:32,480
sorcerers that was

1086
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:36,079
channeling information from the aliens

1087
00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:39,599
and he wrote the nokian tablet which was

1088
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:41,920
this language with which he was

1089
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:43,680
instructed he could communicate with the

1090
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,560
aliens

1091
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:46,800
and then aleister crowley and i don't

1092
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,320
want to go too crazy on here but

1093
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:50,160
aleister crowley used that same

1094
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:53,440
enoki and tablet to channel his gray

1095
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,240
alien

1096
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:57,359
named lamb in like 1917.

1097
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:00,960
and then that same text was used by jack

1098
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,200
parsons in 1947

1099
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:06,079
as the uh to to summon the the the [\h__\h]

1100
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:07,119
of babylon

1101
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:10,480
in the babylon working rituals which

1102
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:13,680
as history tells us was

1103
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:15,680
what possibly opened up the portals to

1104
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:18,319
allow the roswell ufo crash to happen

1105
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:20,000
and in my book i go through this whole

1106
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,599
history of this whole thing but anyways

1107
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:22,880
the point being is like

1108
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,000
this guy who who's a scientist who is

1109
00:40:30,069 --> 00:40:28,400
obviously into aliens didn't know who

1110
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:30,079
john d was and that's concerning and i'm

1111
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:30,800
not saying like oh

1112
00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:32,240
because he's an idiot i'm saying it's

1113
00:40:38,230 --> 00:40:33,839
it's concerning

1114
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,240
because my my issue here is that

1115
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:40,000
people are trying to understand the

1116
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:42,160
mental component of this because they

1117
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,560
on some levels want to make a bridge to

1118
00:40:48,069 --> 00:40:46,000
the cosmos

1119
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,079
which again this is the same thing we

1120
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:50,480
see in all these ancient mystery schools

1121
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:52,240
and all these secret societies is this

1122
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:53,760
idea of

1123
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,480
ceremonial ritual magic mentally

1124
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:59,119
creating new realities man becoming god

1125
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:01,599
and that's what i would argue they're

1126
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:02,960
going to try to do

1127
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:05,599
or they're going to try to understand

1128
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:07,760
how to make this work

1129
00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:09,760
through quantum physics or whatever and

1130
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:11,200
and that's some stuff

1131
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:14,240
we go into uh another time but the

1132
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,359
the the idea is that they

1133
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:20,160
have been researching this for tens and

1134
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:20,960
dozens of years

1135
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,440
since the 40s how this works and i would

1136
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:24,800
argue that they have a better idea of

1137
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:26,000
how this works

1138
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:28,640
than we know because every conspiracy

1139
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,520
theorist tells you

1140
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:32,400
well you know your darpa's and your cia

1141
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:34,000
labs they're like 20 30 years

1142
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,640
advanced technologically from what we

1143
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:38,160
know even exists

1144
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,440
so i would argue they already understand

1145
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:42,079
how this works and then the question is

1146
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:43,839
you know you talk to uh

1147
00:41:47,910 --> 00:41:46,319
or you uh you watch like steven greer dr

1148
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,920
steven mcgreer he's he's been talking

1149
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:48,880
about the ufo

1150
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,520
disclosure agenda and his concerns are

1151
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:53,280
that they're going to try to

1152
00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:54,800
weaponize they're going to try to use

1153
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:56,640
this as the ultimate threat to

1154
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:59,359
build up a military for space wars and

1155
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:00,400
all this stuff

1156
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,960
which again i don't know maybe i mean we

1157
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:04,720
did start a space force

1158
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:07,359
and dr werner von braun on his deathbed

1159
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:07,920
told his

1160
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:11,119
his close friend carol rosin hey they're

1161
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,680
gonna

1162
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,680
say that aliens and ufos are a threat

1163
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:15,359
don't believe them that's that's the

1164
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:18,160
big false flag and like there's all

1165
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:19,680
these different ideas floating around

1166
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:20,800
and

1167
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:22,880
you know they gave us the the pentagon

1168
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:25,200
gave us full disclosure in march of 2020

1169
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:26,640
right during the midst of

1170
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:30,480
the the biggest pandemic that we've seen

1171
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:34,160
in modern day and you gotta wonder what

1172
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:36,079
the hell is going on here something's in

1173
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:37,520
something's in the works i know that

1174
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,920
much and that's why

1175
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:42,240
when i say i'm feeling very much out of

1176
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:44,079
my element in the last couple days

1177
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:46,880
it's because a lot of these weird sort

1178
00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:47,119
of

1179
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:50,079
occult themed ritualistic ideas

1180
00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:51,920
manifested when

1181
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,440
they stormed the capital yesterday and

1182
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:57,440
uh you know i talked about it like four

1183
00:43:03,109 --> 00:42:59,520
years ago i talked about this sort of

1184
00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:03,119
idea about the chaos and how

1185
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,119
we find order from the chaos this is the

1186
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:07,359
33rd degree of freemasonry

1187
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:11,200
uh motto order up ko and

1188
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:13,200
trump was a chaos candidate all along

1189
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:14,640
and from day one to

1190
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:17,119
the last day apparently uh we've got

1191
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,200
nothing but chaos

1192
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:21,280
and it makes me and i'm very concerned

1193
00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:24,319
that coupled with this alien thing

1194
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,720
what and then and then add in throw in

1195
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:28,400
this great recess thing

1196
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,880
and it's like man where are we gonna be

1197
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:32,800
in a year like this is crazy

1198
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:35,599
this is absolute pandemonium this is a

1199
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:37,920
crazy time to be alive and like

1200
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:39,280
usually i'm the kind of guy that's

1201
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:41,440
trying to make fun and trying not to be

1202
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,599
too heavy on stuff but like

1203
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:45,359
my head's in a bad space these last

1204
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:46,720
couple days i'm just like

1205
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:49,440
i don't know what to tell you guys you

1206
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:50,480
know i don't want to be the guys like

1207
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:52,240
hunker down with your shotgun but

1208
00:43:56,260 --> 00:43:55,040
you know maybe okay let me talk you in

1209
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:56,270
off the cliff

1210
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:02,790
because look bro you're you're kind of

1211
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,480
laying a lot of stuff out there

1212
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:06,560
and i want to deconstruct it the best we

1213
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,440
can so it just doesn't sound crazy

1214
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:11,040
yeah it's gonna sound it's gonna sound

1215
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:12,640
crazy to a lot of people it's a lot

1216
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,319
it's a lot and that's okay because

1217
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:16,319
because our reality

1218
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:20,400
quote-unquote reality is crazy

1219
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:23,040
the the idea you know the simple one i'm

1220
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,640
hoping to do a show with

1221
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:26,240
this because i never i don't like to get

1222
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:27,920
into this stuff but you know

1223
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:31,200
science it's like the

1224
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:34,400
the final insult of science

1225
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:37,040
to the idea of science has been the

1226
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:38,640
plandemic the last year

1227
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:40,560
and like the simplest way i like to we

1228
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:42,480
chat a little bit on your show

1229
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:46,079
is masks right so make the connection

1230
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:49,680
between masks and

1231
00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:53,119
public health policy right because

1232
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:55,119
ultimately that's what we want from

1233
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:56,400
science

1234
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:00,240
is to inform

1235
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,800
us who am i why am i here but the second

1236
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:04,800
thing we want is to

1237
00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:09,359
effectively inform our policy makers

1238
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:11,599
as for making good decisions so here's

1239
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:12,800
what we know

1240
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:15,920
about masks right as they relate to

1241
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:19,760
coving one we know that some masks

1242
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:21,920
just don't work if you're like me and

1243
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:23,599
you just cut off your t-shirt and throw

1244
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:24,880
it on your face

1245
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:27,920
it no one says that that would ever be

1246
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:30,720
efficacious in any way that's why they

1247
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:32,640
have certain masks

1248
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:34,960
that have been tested in laboratory

1249
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:35,760
settings

1250
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,800
and are shown to be able to block the

1251
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:40,079
virus right

1252
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:42,400
uh and influenza virus is usually what

1253
00:45:45,829 --> 00:45:43,920
they test it with but covid vibe

1254
00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:45,839
whatever you have the same the viruses

1255
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,960
aren't that big of a different

1256
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:49,119
size if it kind of stops one they say

1257
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:50,720
okay that's a good mask

1258
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:53,760
so this mask does nothing the

1259
00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:56,960
other mask does something okay is that

1260
00:46:03,670 --> 00:46:00,560
reflected in our public health policy

1261
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:03,680
no not at all just wear some kind of

1262
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,480
mask

1263
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:06,400
you know some kind of face covering

1264
00:46:09,829 --> 00:46:07,760
there's no

1265
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,839
thought at all in terms of what that

1266
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:11,440
would be that is a

1267
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:12,960
anyone could just look at that well

1268
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:15,440
that's a failure of that policy

1269
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:17,680
but the second thing that we know and we

1270
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:19,200
talked about when we're on your show

1271
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:22,319
is there is a certain

1272
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:26,800
scientific if you will medical protocol

1273
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:29,599
for mask wearing right you don't want to

1274
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:31,280
put on the mask and then touch your face

1275
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,119
adjust the mask and all this because

1276
00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:35,040
whatever the mask is touching is now on

1277
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:36,800
your hand and whenever you touch it

1278
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:39,599
it does oh you don't want to do that

1279
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:40,560
there

1280
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:44,800
we know that isn't taking place

1281
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:47,680
so then we go and we look at the science

1282
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:48,480
behind it

1283
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:50,160
and and this has been going on for a

1284
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,000
long time because we've had

1285
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:55,200
the fear of influenza spreading as well

1286
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:55,680
as

1287
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:57,520
all sorts of different you know back

1288
00:47:00,710 --> 00:46:59,839
when we had the covid uh number one sars

1289
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:00,720
and stuff like that

1290
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:02,240
they were very keen to do all these

1291
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:04,720
studies legitimate hospitals

1292
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:07,440
and what they found is that you can get

1293
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,680
a mask to work in a laboratory

1294
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:11,520
but then when you go in the hospital and

1295
00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,960
you do clinical trials

1296
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,640
and you give all the nurses and all the

1297
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:16,079
doctors masks

1298
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:18,880
it don't make no difference it's not

1299
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:20,480
efficacious

1300
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,960
in controlling the virus why wouldn't it

1301
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:24,720
be well for all the reasons we just said

1302
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:26,160
there's all this protocol in terms of

1303
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,520
how you use mask whether you

1304
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,440
reuse the mask how you touch it with

1305
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,599
your face all that it all breaks down

1306
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:33,040
and the little bit of benefit that you

1307
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:34,640
could have gotten goes away

1308
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:38,400
there is zero effectiveness

1309
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:41,040
in clinical trials so then you look real

1310
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:42,960
world examples and you start pulling in

1311
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:45,200
data right you start looking at a county

1312
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:47,440
that controls max and one that doesn't

1313
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:49,200
and periods that do that and there's

1314
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:51,040
just virtually no

1315
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:54,480
difference in the infection rate

1316
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:58,079
of people whether they wear a mask or we

1317
00:48:03,270 --> 00:47:59,599
don't wear a mask

1318
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:03,280
so is that any of that reflected

1319
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:07,440
in our policy in our health policy no

1320
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:10,559
that to me is highly suggestive of the

1321
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:14,319
pandemic as some people like me and you

1322
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:17,760
call it why wouldn't there be

1323
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,200
a closer link between science

1324
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:24,079
and policy because you don't want to

1325
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:24,800
link

1326
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:26,960
you just want to be able to wave your

1327
00:48:31,990 --> 00:48:27,920
arm and

1328
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:32,000
pass along edix that sounds sciencey

1329
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:34,160
enough for people to follow them you

1330
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:35,440
don't really want

1331
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:38,720
science sure uh i think that

1332
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,480
and to play devil's and i'm with you

1333
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:42,480
right like

1334
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:45,920
paul like much like the the guy

1335
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:47,839
run in the world health organization

1336
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:49,280
isn't a doctor

1337
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:52,559
i should say excuse me

1338
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,119
they're not medical doctors politicians

1339
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:57,119
generally aren't medical doctors

1340
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,400
they're not scientists generally there's

1341
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:02,640
they don't they're not really in the

1342
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:04,160
business of science they're in the

1343
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:04,800
business

1344
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:06,800
of you know politicians are in the

1345
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,800
business of serving the american public

1346
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:10,720
the taxpayers is ideally

1347
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,119
what they're supposed to be doing right

1348
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:15,200
now to play devil's advocate

1349
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:18,800
i would argue that the reason we see

1350
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:21,680
them saying to wear the masks are

1351
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:23,040
because

1352
00:49:28,829 --> 00:49:26,400
i think and this is like in some weird

1353
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:28,839
way in support of the masks

1354
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:32,240
okay in some weird way i think that

1355
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:36,240
they want to give people confidence to

1356
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:37,440
go out and shop

1357
00:49:43,829 --> 00:49:41,200
because fueling the economy is

1358
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:43,839
good that's good for america we need to

1359
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:45,359
do that on some levels

1360
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:48,000
but you can't you can't sit here and

1361
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:48,960
pump fear

1362
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:52,079
into the public and tell them there's a

1363
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:55,200
contagious deadly virus uh you're going

1364
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,319
to catch it and

1365
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:58,880
here's some horrific stories of you know

1366
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:01,280
couples that died holding hands

1367
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:03,119
in the hospital bed and their families

1368
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,880
couldn't visit them but

1369
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:06,480
get out there and go spend your money

1370
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:08,400
don't worry about catching it like

1371
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:10,160
i think they need to sort of they talk

1372
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:11,680
on both sides they

1373
00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:14,240
need you to be scared of it and then

1374
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:15,359
they would and

1375
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:17,040
right or wrong like i'm not i'm not a

1376
00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:18,319
medical doctor i've talked to a lot of

1377
00:50:23,109 --> 00:50:19,599
medical folks

1378
00:50:24,829 --> 00:50:23,119
um that i trust and they they've sort of

1379
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:24,839
like corrected me and

1380
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:28,160
and i'm not saying like

1381
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:29,440
i don't want to go on a record and be

1382
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:31,040
like oh my god code's the scariest thing

1383
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:32,240
ever but like

1384
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,760
clearly there's a virus of some kind

1385
00:50:38,630 --> 00:50:35,520
going around called covid

1386
00:50:40,309 --> 00:50:38,640
and it affects some people right but i

1387
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:40,319
think that

1388
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,400
the the they need to speak out both

1389
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:44,640
sides of the mouth they need to scare us

1390
00:50:48,390 --> 00:50:46,559
of the virus but they also at the same

1391
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:48,400
time need us not too scared that we

1392
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:50,079
don't go out and spend our money

1393
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:53,280
so the masks serve a purpose of well it

1394
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:54,240
gives you a a

1395
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:57,280
weird um confidence like

1396
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:00,559
a weird safety net a weird sort of uh

1397
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:03,359
you know seat belt on the airplane sort

1398
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:05,040
of effect you know what i'm saying

1399
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:08,240
what do men of power want

1400
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:12,640
more power it's about control the more i

1401
00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:13,359
control

1402
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:20,559
this is uh this is roman man

1403
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:23,599
divide and rule fear is

1404
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:26,640
is just is just a tool it's just it's

1405
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:27,440
just a tool

1406
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:30,319
it's the same thing with the the vaccine

1407
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:31,040
you know i

1408
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:34,400
won't even get into all that stuff but

1409
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:38,079
even that phony [\h__\h] uh fauci

1410
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,119
acknowledges this is what they say the

1411
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:42,880
vaccine doesn't prevent you

1412
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:45,920
from getting covered this is like a very

1413
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:47,599
subtle part but it's in there

1414
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:50,800
what it does is reduce the symptoms

1415
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:53,200
that you will of the disease so you're

1416
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:54,480
less likely to die

1417
00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:57,520
is the claim but that is not

1418
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:59,599
to your point that is not how they're

1419
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:01,680
going to sell it or spend it it already

1420
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:02,160
isn't

1421
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,839
the public perception there's no way

1422
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:05,680
they could swing the public perception

1423
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:07,200
back the other way

1424
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:10,480
it's you know poke and fly baby

1425
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:12,640
get your vaccine and then fly on the

1426
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:13,599
plane

1427
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:16,720
well how have you reduced your chance of

1428
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:20,240
infection if if our man fauci himself

1429
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:21,359
says that that's not

1430
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:24,960
what the vaccine does so it

1431
00:52:28,230 --> 00:52:27,280
pulling it back to the 50 000 foot view

1432
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:28,240
again

1433
00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:32,480
this is the ultimate failure or success

1434
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:35,839
of science right because science now

1435
00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,359
is just a complete tool of the people

1436
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:41,280
in charge and they don't have to really

1437
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:44,400
ever really use any real science

1438
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:47,119
you know they don't even pretend to have

1439
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:48,880
a a public scientific

1440
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:51,680
board that is somehow responsible that

1441
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:52,720
is somehow

1442
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:55,839
public open to debate they are

1443
00:53:02,150 --> 00:52:59,040
so far from that and and and

1444
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:02,160
what disturbs me

1445
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:05,040
is people quote unquote in my community

1446
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:05,359
who

1447
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:08,000
are science-minded they don't seem to

1448
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,800
see any

1449
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,640
any problem with that they're not up in

1450
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,319
arms they're just

1451
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:14,640
because they don't understand the

1452
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:16,880
conspiratorial part they're not willing

1453
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:18,800
to at least

1454
00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:22,800
consider santa claus and his

1455
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:26,079
great reset and and the absurdity that

1456
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:26,480
you're

1457
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:29,280
mentioning that how could somebody how

1458
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:31,280
could the richest

1459
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:33,920
corporations in the world possibly

1460
00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:35,760
suggest that we hand over

1461
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:38,319
all our rights and all our wealth to

1462
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,880
them

1463
00:53:42,549 --> 00:53:41,200
so that they could redistribute it for

1464
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:42,559
our benefit

1465
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:45,440
i'm not down with that absolutely man

1466
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,000
and i'm

1467
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,720
and and this is where when i say my mind

1468
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:51,119
has been sort of scrambled

1469
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:54,640
it's because over the years looking at

1470
00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:56,000
these conspiracies

1471
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:57,680
you know as part of sort of this truth

1472
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,520
or community i always say i'm a bad

1473
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:00,960
truther because like i don't

1474
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:03,599
go all in on every conspiracy that comes

1475
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:04,319
across my

1476
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:08,319
my email but the um

1477
00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:10,079
over the years like we we've been

1478
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:12,000
pointing out how you know how bad this

1479
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:13,520
and that is and how terrible this and

1480
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:14,400
that is

1481
00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:17,760
and uh you know the truth is

1482
00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:20,079
is that capitalism and american

1483
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:21,280
democracy

1484
00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:23,440
has got problems there's problems with

1485
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:25,200
it and we point them out all the time

1486
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:26,400
over the years we put it out to a

1487
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:27,359
million of them

1488
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,280
but my concern is that

1489
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,359
well i don't necessarily want to go to

1490
00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:34,880
the globalist government for the

1491
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:36,319
solution like i think we've got some

1492
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,760
flaws but like

1493
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:39,440
let's just try to fix those things i

1494
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:41,680
mean i don't want it to get worse right

1495
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:43,839
but like there's there's a lot of weird

1496
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:45,839
sort of dilemmas

1497
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:47,760
that we face because uh you know with

1498
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:49,359
the qa non-movement

1499
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:51,119
and uh a lot of the stuff that they've

1500
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:53,280
been saying that coincides with a lot of

1501
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:55,040
the material that i've been getting into

1502
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:56,160
that i say

1503
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:57,839
yeah i think that it's possible that

1504
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:59,839
some of these heinous things could be

1505
00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:00,720
happening

1506
00:55:04,789 --> 00:55:02,799
but yet again like i draw the line and i

1507
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:04,799
say but i don't really believe that

1508
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:07,680
there's this great salvation coming from

1509
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:08,400
this uh

1510
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:10,079
movement like i if it would have

1511
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:12,240
happened it would have happened by now

1512
00:55:17,109 --> 00:55:15,200
so like it's been a really turbulent

1513
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,119
year to try to like

1514
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:19,119
because before this we were just

1515
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:20,880
floating theories out like oh listen to

1516
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:21,200
this

1517
00:55:26,789 --> 00:55:25,119
there was no sign no uh no real

1518
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:26,799
impact no real world impact no real

1519
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:29,280
significance no repercussions from it

1520
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,400
and now we're seeing things manifest

1521
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:34,799
and it really give makes you pause and

1522
00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:35,760
sit back and think

1523
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,559
well gosh maybe maybe we need to be a

1524
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:40,240
little careful about what we say maybe

1525
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:41,359
we need to be a little more careful

1526
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,599
about what we're telling people to do

1527
00:55:48,069 --> 00:55:45,839
you know and and that's why we in what

1528
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:48,079
way do we need to be more careful

1529
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:50,319
i i don't really i don't really

1530
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:51,760
understand

1531
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:55,119
because people aren't you and i

1532
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:56,880
we can have these conversations we can

1533
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,040
talk about the aliens we can talk about

1534
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:01,520
blood sacrifice to these gods and

1535
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:04,319
all this wacky stuff and and we can both

1536
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:05,839
say that's really interesting you know

1537
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:07,119
maybe right maybe there's something

1538
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:08,160
going on

1539
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:10,240
but when you when you're looking at you

1540
00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:11,520
know

1541
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,760
350 million people in america they hear

1542
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:15,200
these messages

1543
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:16,799
some of them are going to run with that

1544
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:19,680
and be hell-bent on thinking

1545
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:21,599
like uh oh my god like they're really

1546
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:22,799
doing this

1547
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:25,760
and the reality is like we don't know

1548
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:27,280
reality is some people are

1549
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:28,640
the reality is they are really some

1550
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:30,240
people are doing it yeah and they have

1551
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:32,319
done it for the longest time and i mean

1552
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:34,000
you know one thing we gotta we gotta

1553
00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:35,359
throw in here because we kind of

1554
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:38,559
spent a lot of time on the last show

1555
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:42,319
i think uh spirituality is ultimately

1556
00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:44,160
central to all of this because

1557
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:48,400
spirituality is ultimately central to

1558
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:50,559
who we are it's the ultimate human

1559
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:52,160
experience for sure

1560
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:55,599
who are we why are we here as i started

1561
00:57:01,990 --> 00:56:58,799
saying you know the ultimate conspiracy

1562
00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:02,000
reveal for me is that this idea that

1563
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:03,520
you're a biological robot

1564
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,160
meaningless universe that scientism as

1565
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:08,000
we know it is true

1566
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:10,880
is the ultimate conspiracy because what

1567
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:12,160
better way to control

1568
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:15,119
you than for you to think you're nothing

1569
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:17,119
that you have no meaning

1570
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,440
that that voice inside your head that

1571
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:21,119
essence of who you are doesn't even

1572
00:57:25,190 --> 00:57:22,000
exist

1573
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:25,200
so you are a christian which

1574
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:28,240
i got major problems with but

1575
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:30,240
i set it aside because you're like five

1576
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:32,160
steps ahead of the game

1577
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:35,599
of the atheists and ten steps again

1578
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:38,720
ahead of the game of the satanist so

1579
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,359
and satanism we have to broaden because

1580
00:57:46,390 --> 00:57:43,680
as a non-christian myself

1581
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:46,400
satanism means something different to me

1582
00:57:50,630 --> 00:57:48,799
than it does to you

1583
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:50,640
but i don't want you flying under the

1584
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:51,920
radar

1585
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:53,920
with the spirituality thing and i want

1586
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:55,599
you to kind of share a little bit

1587
00:58:00,069 --> 00:57:58,640
how you're processing all that stuff oh

1588
00:58:02,710 --> 00:58:00,079
for sure yeah so like

1589
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:02,720
and and this isn't one of my it's not a

1590
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,359
topic i

1591
00:58:07,030 --> 00:58:05,520
i hit on too hard on my in my books or

1592
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:07,040
in my shows because

1593
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:10,960
uh i am open-minded and skeptical enough

1594
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:13,200
to think that well i mean like i don't

1595
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:14,880
know for sure

1596
00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,000
you know and that's what faith is all

1597
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:17,920
about right like we just don't know

1598
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:19,760
uh you know and i was born and raised in

1599
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:21,359
the christian faith

1600
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:24,640
and it didn't it didn't really resonate

1601
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:27,119
for me and when i was 16

1602
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:29,760
my my mom was like okay cool like you

1603
00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:30,799
don't have to go to church anymore if

1604
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:32,000
you don't want to i was like sweet i'm

1605
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:32,400
out

1606
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:34,400
later because i didn't like it i didn't

1607
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:35,760
get along with nobody in there i felt

1608
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,440
like i was the weirdo there and

1609
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:39,119
i didn't feel accepted and i was like

1610
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:41,119
man these guys seem like a bunch of

1611
00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:44,400
you know hypocrites and stuff and then

1612
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:47,599
several years later i uh i joined the

1613
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:49,040
orthodox church

1614
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,839
and i found a sort of something

1615
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:53,440
resonates within me and the best way

1616
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:55,280
though and and the best way i can

1617
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:56,960
describe it is

1618
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:59,760
it's it's like therapy right i never

1619
00:59:02,470 --> 00:59:01,119
want to go to therapy i go see a

1620
00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:02,480
counselor right as you

1621
00:59:06,870 --> 00:59:05,359
as i alluded to i have anxiety you know

1622
00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:06,880
i don't medicate but i do go to

1623
00:59:11,829 --> 00:59:10,079
counseling right and the

1624
00:59:13,270 --> 00:59:11,839
i never want to go i never want to go to

1625
00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:13,280
counseling and then the day before i'm

1626
00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:15,280
like checking my email i'm like please

1627
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:16,559
hope he cancels i hope he's got

1628
00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:18,160
something to come up so i don't have to

1629
00:59:21,670 --> 00:59:18,559
go

1630
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,680
there and i'm dreading it the whole time

1631
00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:23,280
like ugh i don't want to do this

1632
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:24,960
and then when i leave i feel great and

1633
00:59:27,910 --> 00:59:26,319
it's the same with church i never want

1634
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:27,920
to get up early i never want to get

1635
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:29,920
dressed i don't even want to go in there

1636
00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:31,280
and i go in there and i feel like a

1637
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,960
million bucks when i leave and i think

1638
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:34,640
something's happening on a subconscious

1639
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:36,480
level i don't know what it is

1640
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:39,119
i've never talked to god i've never i i

1641
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:40,640
pray but like i'm not one of those

1642
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:41,520
people that's like

1643
00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:43,599
oh jesus came and talked to me and i

1644
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:46,000
felt his presence like i wish i had that

1645
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:48,240
level of interaction because then my

1646
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:49,599
faith would be right you know really

1647
00:59:54,069 --> 00:59:50,640
strong

1648
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:54,079
um so like it's a weird it's a weird

1649
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:55,760
territory i'm in where like

1650
00:59:59,109 --> 00:59:58,000
i believe it but then i also think well

1651
01:00:00,150 --> 00:59:59,119
maybe i only believe it because i was

1652
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:00,160
like sort of

1653
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:02,720
born and raised in these stories and i

1654
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:03,520
feel

1655
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:06,640
a weird sense of like uh you know if i

1656
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:07,520
don't believe

1657
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:09,680
and i die i might go to hell so i better

1658
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,880
believe and

1659
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:12,319
you know what i mean like like if i'm on

1660
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:14,000
a plane

1661
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:15,920
know that we hit turbulence i'm saying

1662
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,079
prayers i'm sorry i'm just i'm doing it

1663
01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:20,000
you know what i mean like and i don't

1664
01:00:23,829 --> 01:00:21,599
know am i programmed to believe that or

1665
01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:23,839
is there some authentic spiritual

1666
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,880
thing there i don't know dude so i'm

1667
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:28,559
with you in a sense that i get it i get

1668
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:29,200
how like

1669
01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:31,599
people can not believe in christianity

1670
01:00:36,789 --> 01:00:33,599
and say like oh this is all just a big

1671
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:36,799
psyop i get it but that's not me i

1672
01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:39,839
i got it uh you're awesome

1673
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:41,520
you're awesome i totally respect that

1674
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:43,119
you know i i did an interview

1675
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:44,640
pause one second here i'm going to pull

1676
01:00:49,510 --> 01:00:47,440
it up he's a freaking genius

1677
01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:49,520
and he's a genius he's a spiritual

1678
01:00:53,589 --> 01:00:51,040
genius

1679
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,599
and uh his name is jurgen ziva have you

1680
01:00:58,390 --> 01:00:55,359
ever heard of jurgen

1681
01:01:01,430 --> 01:00:58,400
no jurgen has had some

1682
01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:01,440
amazing out-of-body experiences that

1683
01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:02,480
he's chronicled

1684
01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:05,760
in his books among the most

1685
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:09,200
detailed uh and inspirational

1686
01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:12,000
accounts that he has and you just

1687
01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:12,960
happened

1688
01:01:17,190 --> 01:01:15,920
you just have to hear this guy but i i

1689
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:17,200
was going to play the clip but i'll just

1690
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:18,079
kind of tell you

1691
01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:20,799
so he's not a religious guy he's not a

1692
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:21,520
christian

1693
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:24,640
but he's spiritual as [\h__\h]

1694
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:27,760
he's going on this tour and he's down

1695
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:31,119
at that island in greece that is the

1696
01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:33,359
monastery have you ever seen that thing

1697
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:35,200
greek i've got it tattooed on my torso

1698
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:37,760
the mount athos

1699
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,960
to monothose you want to talk about

1700
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:42,000
synchronicity

1701
01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:45,200
kind of [\h__\h] he's there and you know

1702
01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:46,880
it's like you can tour you can walk you

1703
01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:47,280
walk

1704
01:01:50,789 --> 01:01:48,880
all the way up the mountain and then you

1705
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:50,799
tour around you know it's very

1706
01:01:55,670 --> 01:01:54,000
austere and all that so he starts

1707
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,680
talking to one of these monks which is

1708
01:02:00,870 --> 01:01:57,440
unheard of

1709
01:02:02,549 --> 01:02:00,880
and the monk identifies him as somebody

1710
01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:02,559
who's legit

1711
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:06,559
and he says i want to show you something

1712
01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:09,280
and he takes him into this darkened room

1713
01:02:16,470 --> 01:02:11,920
it's completely dark he says

1714
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:16,480
and he sits him down and he goes over

1715
01:02:20,549 --> 01:02:19,280
this is like ancient [\h__\h] there's this

1716
01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:20,559
chandelier

1717
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:23,680
with candles on it it's way up there and

1718
01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:26,720
he slowly lowers down the rope

1719
01:02:34,150 --> 01:02:30,640
and it reveals this greek orthodox icon

1720
01:02:37,589 --> 01:02:34,160
that is on the wall and jurgen

1721
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:37,599
jurgen is he's traveled to

1722
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:41,280
the other dimensions like he's not like

1723
01:02:45,750 --> 01:02:42,559
going to get blown away

1724
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:45,760
he's blown away there's tears

1725
01:02:49,589 --> 01:02:48,160
rolling down his face there's this

1726
01:02:53,190 --> 01:02:49,599
supreme

1727
01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:53,200
ecstatic love that fills his body

1728
01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:56,960
from viewing this icon

1729
01:03:02,549 --> 01:03:00,400
and the monk just nods and smiles

1730
01:03:05,109 --> 01:03:02,559
and that's it and he pulls the

1731
01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:05,119
chandelier up and they go outside

1732
01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:07,200
and they're brothers spiritual brothers

1733
01:03:12,549 --> 01:03:09,280
so they don't have to talk a lot

1734
01:03:14,230 --> 01:03:12,559
but the next day jurgen comes back

1735
01:03:16,309 --> 01:03:14,240
because he wants to see if the

1736
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:16,319
experience is is real

1737
01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:20,079
right yeah and it's like shut down

1738
01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:22,400
like everyone's like what do you mean

1739
01:03:25,910 --> 01:03:24,000
you know he says yeah no the monk took

1740
01:03:27,910 --> 01:03:25,920
me back there he is

1741
01:03:29,190 --> 01:03:27,920
the monk didn't take you back there we

1742
01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:29,200
have guys who've been

1743
01:03:32,549 --> 01:03:31,440
at the monastery for 10 years in

1744
01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:32,559
meditation

1745
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:34,960
and study they haven't been in there he

1746
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:37,440
sure as hell didn't take you back there

1747
01:03:42,549 --> 01:03:39,440
and suddenly he sees a guy up on the

1748
01:03:44,470 --> 01:03:42,559
next level just kind of laughing

1749
01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:44,480
and he comes back and he rescues him he

1750
01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:45,599
says okay you're gonna

1751
01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:48,160
tell you what let me take you to another

1752
01:03:51,270 --> 01:03:49,440
one

1753
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:51,280
and he takes him into a separate little

1754
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:53,200
room darkened

1755
01:03:57,109 --> 01:03:55,920
lowers down the chandelier icon on the

1756
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:57,119
wall

1757
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:00,240
same thing same experience

1758
01:04:07,029 --> 01:04:04,000
unbelievable joy ecstasy

1759
01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:07,039
love god light

1760
01:04:10,230 --> 01:04:09,280
you know if there's one thing that we

1761
01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:10,240
can

1762
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:13,440
leave people with and this that

1763
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:16,960
does bring you in off the ledge is

1764
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:19,440
it's really about the light the darkness

1765
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:21,119
gets way way too much

1766
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:25,280
press bro way too much press

1767
01:04:31,829 --> 01:04:28,559
it's about the light so

1768
01:04:32,549 --> 01:04:31,839
that's jurgen you got to go i don't do a

1769
01:04:34,150 --> 01:04:32,559
good job

1770
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:34,160
don't do him justice you can hear him

1771
01:04:38,630 --> 01:04:36,480
tell the story and he's not out like

1772
01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:38,640
looking for pub or anything like that

1773
01:04:44,069 --> 01:04:40,960
he's just the most

1774
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:44,079
amazing uh guy who's experienced that

1775
01:04:47,910 --> 01:04:46,319
and he has virtual reality thing out

1776
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:47,920
again for free

1777
01:04:50,549 --> 01:04:49,440
you know everything i said i want to

1778
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:50,559
help you with the virtual reality thing

1779
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:51,440
because the only

1780
01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:53,200
the only restriction i'd make is

1781
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:55,280
whatever we do it has to be put out for

1782
01:04:58,230 --> 01:04:55,839
free

1783
01:04:59,190 --> 01:04:58,240
i want people to experience what i've

1784
01:05:02,309 --> 01:04:59,200
experienced

1785
01:05:04,150 --> 01:05:02,319
in these uh transcendent realms and i'll

1786
01:05:06,309 --> 01:05:04,160
just add one thing you know that i that

1787
01:05:08,230 --> 01:05:06,319
i asked gary and i go

1788
01:05:09,670 --> 01:05:08,240
so you had that experience right that

1789
01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:09,680
really happened he goes yeah

1790
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:11,760
i go but you're still not christian

1791
01:05:17,349 --> 01:05:13,520
right you got a chuckle he goes

1792
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:17,359
oh no really christianity

1793
01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:20,880
is an intermediary an unnecessary

1794
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:22,079
intermediary

1795
01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:24,160
sure christ consciousness connect with

1796
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:25,920
it anytime you want you don't need the

1797
01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:27,680
bible you don't need the icon

1798
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:29,520
it's just a vehicle you're going to

1799
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:31,280
church you're connecting the church

1800
01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:33,839
it's great it's there but it it's just

1801
01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:35,359
it's not

1802
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:37,599
a necessary step it's like if it's

1803
01:05:40,230 --> 01:05:39,280
necessary for you now then that's great

1804
01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:40,240
but it's

1805
01:05:44,470 --> 01:05:43,280
that's my i could see this they could

1806
01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:44,480
get behind that

1807
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:48,240
yeah oh man we we've kind of

1808
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:51,359
uh uh lost the lost the road here a

1809
01:05:54,390 --> 01:05:52,240
little bit

1810
01:05:56,230 --> 01:05:54,400
but i want people to go and look at your

1811
01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:56,240
excellent

1812
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:59,200
information on the occult hollywood

1813
01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:59,839
thing

1814
01:06:03,349 --> 01:06:01,440
you can get it from a lot of different

1815
01:06:03,910 --> 01:06:03,359
sources but i think the way that you do

1816
01:06:10,390 --> 01:06:03,920
it

1817
01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:10,400
accessible and very powerful can you

1818
01:06:15,910 --> 01:06:12,160
leave us with some thoughts on

1819
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:19,990
yeah so the the idea is that like for me

1820
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:22,880
i'm learning as i go and some people are

1821
01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:24,000
new to it so

1822
01:06:27,829 --> 01:06:26,559
my my earlier works maybe resonate

1823
01:06:29,349 --> 01:06:27,839
better than the newer ones because the

1824
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:29,359
newer ones might be too deep down the

1825
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:30,640
rabbit hole

1826
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:33,119
but what got me intrigued by all of this

1827
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:34,160
and what

1828
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:36,240
a lot of people are drawn to when they

1829
01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:37,680
first get into this

1830
01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:40,559
is all of these symbols and these sort

1831
01:06:42,950 --> 01:06:41,039
of

1832
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:42,960
you know messages that they see in

1833
01:06:48,870 --> 01:06:45,760
movies and predictive programming

1834
01:06:51,829 --> 01:06:48,880
and when you read through

1835
01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:51,839
the literature of the occultists and you

1836
01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:52,720
understand

1837
01:06:57,670 --> 01:06:55,680
the the uh the high profile rituals the

1838
01:07:01,270 --> 01:06:57,680
initiation ceremonies you

1839
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:01,280
you understand the the allegories that

1840
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:03,440
they give to their initiates

1841
01:07:07,430 --> 01:07:06,240
um you know like for instance the skull

1842
01:07:09,589 --> 01:07:07,440
and bones for example

1843
01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:09,599
we'll take the skull and bones they take

1844
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:10,799
their initiates and they put them in a

1845
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:11,760
casket

1846
01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:14,160
and and they've the skull and bones

1847
01:07:18,309 --> 01:07:16,079
obviously as their logo which

1848
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:18,319
in the in the freemasons they they have

1849
01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:20,160
a thing called a reflection chamber and

1850
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:22,160
the initiate sits in there in the dark

1851
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:25,039
and has a there's some skull and bones

1852
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:27,280
there and and the whole thing is

1853
01:07:30,549 --> 01:07:30,240
the initiate needs to reflect upon death

1854
01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:30,559
and

1855
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:32,319
this goes back to the the pyramids of

1856
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:34,240
giza they would bury them underneath the

1857
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:35,760
pyramids for three days

1858
01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:37,680
then bring them back up they all the

1859
01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:38,799
idea is

1860
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:42,400
the the self that you know needs to die

1861
01:07:47,589 --> 01:07:45,440
so the initiate can be reborn and this

1862
01:07:50,230 --> 01:07:47,599
is exactly the processes that we see

1863
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:50,240
in a lot of hollywood movies uh you know

1864
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:52,640
deadpool is one i'll stop my head

1865
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:55,200
where you know they go symbolically they

1866
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:56,480
go underground

1867
01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:59,200
they die they're reborn and the rebirth

1868
01:08:02,710 --> 01:07:59,839
happens

1869
01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:02,720
and it's an alchemical process it's what

1870
01:08:05,430 --> 01:08:04,720
when people see that goat with the boobs

1871
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:05,440
you know

1872
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:08,160
the baphomet on the on the forearms it

1873
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:10,000
says solving coagula they're latin

1874
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:12,880
terms for dissolve and to bring together

1875
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:15,039
to coagulate

1876
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:17,040
and that's exactly what they're trying

1877
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:18,799
to do on a massive level they've been

1878
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:21,440
showing this these topics and themes

1879
01:08:25,749 --> 01:08:24,159
but they're embedded in real world

1880
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:25,759
mystery teachings

1881
01:08:30,309 --> 01:08:28,960
and i'm not here to say what's right or

1882
01:08:31,749 --> 01:08:30,319
wrong

1883
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:31,759
because i question a lot of this stuff

1884
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:33,839
too and like i said earlier

1885
01:08:37,510 --> 01:08:35,520
i'll go back and forth is this

1886
01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:37,520
illuminati are they the bad guys are

1887
01:08:40,630 --> 01:08:38,080
they the good

1888
01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:40,640
guys i don't know i don't profess to

1889
01:08:44,789 --> 01:08:42,640
know the answers to it i just know that

1890
01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:44,799
a lot of the things we we witness and

1891
01:08:49,030 --> 01:08:46,000
observe

1892
01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:49,040
they're high level rituals and the more

1893
01:08:52,229 --> 01:08:50,480
that we know about it

1894
01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:52,239
the more discernment we can have and i

1895
01:08:56,789 --> 01:08:54,880
would argue that we can be better at

1896
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:56,799
identifying the path that we're on and

1897
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:58,319
we're going down and at least have some

1898
01:09:00,789 --> 01:08:58,799
say

1899
01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:00,799
in what it is that we want the future

1900
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,400
world to look like because

1901
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:04,560
believe you me they're destroying the

1902
01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:06,799
version of reality that we know

1903
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:09,839
to try to recreate a new one uh and

1904
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:11,600
we need to be a part of that process on

1905
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:13,199
some level so yeah

1906
01:09:16,789 --> 01:09:14,960
all my books talk about this subject

1907
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:16,799
just in different ways like

1908
01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:18,480
like kubrick's code i talk about stanley

1909
01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:20,480
kubrick movies and all the themes you

1910
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:21,520
see in there and

1911
01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:24,480
and and so on and so forth again if this

1912
01:09:28,149 --> 01:09:24,719
is

1913
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,159
the the teaspoon on ramping

1914
01:09:33,749 --> 01:09:31,120
for some people who who maybe would at

1915
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:33,759
first glance say these ideas are wacky

1916
01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:35,279
and maybe you're going to be the

1917
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:37,839
introduction to the non-wackiness of

1918
01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:38,480
them

1919
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:41,679
um yeah i find myself in that role

1920
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:43,520
oftentimes i get a lot of people that

1921
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:44,960
that reach out to me and

1922
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:47,279
you know i'm very humbled by that but

1923
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:48,159
like

1924
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:50,080
they kind of tell me i'm the red pill

1925
01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:51,359
that sort of

1926
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:53,040
snap them out of stuff and and i don't

1927
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:54,480
want to look at it like oh i snapped you

1928
01:09:57,270 --> 01:09:56,159
out of like a morpheus or whatever but

1929
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:57,280
like

1930
01:10:00,790 --> 01:09:58,960
to me there's a lot of a lot of truth

1931
01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:00,800
buried in a lot of these ideas that

1932
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:03,440
uh that i'm talking about and i like to

1933
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:03,920
give

1934
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:06,320
examples in entertainment because for me

1935
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:08,640
it's like francis bacon

1936
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:10,159
was always professing that you can teach

1937
01:10:13,990 --> 01:10:11,920
someone better through entertainment

1938
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:14,000
than to directly lecture them so that's

1939
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:15,360
kind of why i

1940
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:18,159
have this sort of niche of tearing down

1941
01:10:23,189 --> 01:10:20,640
entertainment and movies and films and

1942
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:23,199
music videos and explaining the occult

1943
01:10:27,669 --> 01:10:24,320
agenda behind

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the ideas within them you do a great job

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you make it very uh i don't want to say

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entertaining because that kind of turns

1947
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it in the wrong way

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you just make it very comfortable it's

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enjoyable to listen to you've got a

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great voice

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oh thanks i try man i try you know and i

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and i grew up with like

1953
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you know the alex joneses and the bill

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coopers and i try to take what i like

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from the people that and david ike i try

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to take the things that i

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like and incorporate them and i'm

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learning and constantly trying to

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perfect it so yeah thank you appreciate

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that

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thanks again to isaac for joining me

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today thought it was a great

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conversation

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i guess the one question i'd have to tee

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up from this interview

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is illuminati

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what do you think where do you go

1968
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is it a please unsubscribe river you

1969
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just

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can't cross let me know your thoughts of

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course i'd love to hear you over on the

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skeptico forum

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that's the best place to reach me but if

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you track me down anyplace else i'd love

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to

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engage with you there as well i have

1977
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some really great shows coming up a ton

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of them in the hopper i'm almost

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embarrassed about how far behind i

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am but i'll just start spitting them out